Death Work: The Life and Culture of Forensics with Lilly White

When I joined This Anthro Life it was my first year of my Master’s degree. Thanks to the COVID-19 pandemic I was still at my parent’s house and trying to balance the stress of graduate school with the stress of an ongoing global health crisis. Needless to say, death was floating around my brain quite a lot. From listening to the news to watching the movie Contagion (2011) one too many times as a strange coping mechanism disease and death felt like an ever-looming presence.

This is why editing this episode where Adam discusses the intersection of forensic anthropology and cultural anthropology with Lily White felt so timely. Lily got her Ph.D. from the University of Montana in 2019 and currently owns and operates Bones and Stone Anthroscience with her husband. She is a forensic anthropologist who focuses on the cultural side of forensics, especially on the lives of coroners and medical examiners and the best ways to handle death notifications.

The main takeaways from this episode are:

  1. Digging into the unseen/secret life of coroners (from a cultural perspective)
  2. Death notice work as essential but emotionally difficult plus a struggle keeping coroners in the practice
  3. The challenges of scientific training and having to deliver the worst possible news; the mix of scientific and social knowledge

Looking back on my early days of working with This Anthro Life “Death Work” was an incredibly important to my understanding of podcasting. I learnt about editing using Descript, timing in story telling, creating transcriptions, and how to make cover art that is eyecatching. Plus this was the first episode I posted about on This Anthro Life’s Instagram page which got me started in my role as the Social Media Manager. I owe a lot of my understanding of professional podcasting to this episode and I encourage everyone to give it a listen!

Friend of East End: Dr. Ryan Smith

https://www.thisanthrolife.org/dead-people-tell-tales-segregated-cemeteries-in-richmond-virginia-w-dr-ryan-smith/

My first semester of graduate school at Brandeis University was Fall 2020. While my expectation was to go up to Waltham, Massachusettes the COVID-19 pandemic had other plans. Starting my joint master’s degree in anthropology and women’s, gender, and sexuality studies in my childhood home made me reconnect with my hometown of Richmond Virginia in a way I have not done since high school. During this time I also started an internship with the podcast This Anthro Life with Adam Gamwell through Brandeis.

With This Anthro Life I learned the ins and outs of podcast production and social media management. We discussed narrative arcs, interviewing skills, and how to figure out your target audience. My final project for the official internship was an interview with Dr. Ryan Smith on his latest book Death and Rebirth in a Southern City: Richmond’s Historic Cemeteries.

Dr. Ryan Smith is a professor of US history, material culture, and historic preservation at Virginia Commonwealth University in Richmond, Virginia and a Friend of East End. We met through mutual work with the Friends of East End and at the time of the interview there were multiple issues with Enrichmond blocking the Friends of East End from being able to do their work. Enrichmond wanted the friends, specifically Brian Palmer, to turn over all of their work without getting any credit.

My interview with Dr. Ryan Smith was my first major interview and the first officially public podcast. While it was nerve wrecking thinking about how many people could listen to my podcast it was well received. I currently still run the Instagram for This Anthro Life and make some of the episode art.

Dr. Ryan Smith

Website: https://history.vcu.edu/directory/smith.html

This Anthro Life

Website: https://www.thisanthrolife.org/

Instagram: @ThisAnthroLife

Twitter: @ThisAnthroLife

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thisanthrolife

Friend of East End: Brian Palmer

When I was in high school my family and I started volunteering at East End Cemetery, a historically Black cemetery on the border of Richmond and Henrico County in Virginia. East End Cemetery was founded in 1897 and abandoned in the 1970’s due to bankruptcy. It was not until the summer of 2013 when efforts to restore East End Cemetery, and its neighboring Evergreen Cemetery, began in full force.

The Friends of East End are a group of volunteers who cleaned up the cemetery every weekend and started an oral history project to document the stories of descendants. Brian Palmer is one of the founding members of The Friends of East End along with his wife Erin Hollaway-Palmer. As a photojournalist, he documented the restoration of East End Cemetery over the years and published a book with Erin documenting their work entitled The Afterlife of Jim Crow: East End and Evergreen Cemeteries in Photography. In 2019 he won a Peabody for Reveal radio story “Monumental Lies” with his collaborator Seth Wessler. I interviewed him in spring 2020 for a digital journalism class I was taking at the time.

Brian Palmer is currently a professor of journalism at Columbia University while still working with The Friends of East End with their current restoration project at Woodland Cemetery. He is also a big fan of rootbeer and his dog Teacake.

Brian Palmer:

Website: https://www.brianpalmer.photos/

Instagram: @bxpnyc

Twitter: @bxpnyc

East End Cemetery:

Website: https://eastendcemeteryrva.com/

Instagram: @eastendcemeteryrva

Friends of East End

Website: https://friendsofeastend.com/

Instagram: @friendsofeastend